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Kevin Woster Live chat with U.S. House candidate Chris Nelson…How Insulting Could it Get?

Kevin Woster of the Rapid City Journal held a online live chat with SD SOS Chris Nelson today regarding his work during the 2008 elections and the repeated requests from constituents like myself who questioned “JUST WHO CONFIRMED OBAMA WAS CONSTITUTIONALLY QUALIFIED TO BE ON OUR BALLOTS HERE IN SD”?  There were also questions regarding Nelson’s stance on certain current issues of the day including but not limited to:

“NELSONS’ HAIRCUT STYLE”:

[12:59] [Comment From Voter Voter : ] 

You would look younger if you changed your haircut. Why is your hair so conservative?

[1:00] Because I am conservative. Guess the hair matches the guy!

I guess the prescreened lib commenter doesn’t approve of conservative haircuts. Also obviously prescreened was the type of question to be asked & how it was to be asked.

Woster a few days ago asked a question of Nelson as well as the other candidates running for the US House seat for SD on Obama’s qualifications which was picked up by the Washington ComPost as well as my conservative patriots at WorldNetDaily(WND). Nelson’s response was:

[M]eeting the constitutional qualifications to be President is a very important issue. If President Obama isn’t constitutionally qualified, it would be the biggest scam ever perpetuated on the American people. MANY people contacted me as Secretary of State prior to and after the election asking how Obama could be on our ballot given this controversy. Absent a court finding that he isn’t a natural born citizen, we have to take the certification from the National Democratic Convention at face value.

OK, so Nelson took the certification from the DNC at face value that Obama was qualified. Now I want the readers to see that certification for yourselves and tell me what in this document would lead you to take at its face value that the “WON” was qualified:

2008-SD DNC and RNC Party-Election Certifications

 “Nominated” a couple of guys, CHECK! But I just can’t seem to grasp where they were actually qualified as eligible under the qualifications set forth in the US Constitution.  Did you catch it? NO? Thus I must ask then, “Why for Hawaii but not for the other 49 states in the Union?”

With this continuing to be in the forefront of my mind and with all the newly acquired evidence that disputes Obama’s nativity story, my questions submitted to Nelson were as follows as in all reality, I really can’t see Obama getting removed other than by defeat in the 2012 election. What we have to work on is our citizenship & immigration laws and start holding our elected officials feet to the fire and make them enforce the laws already in place.

question #1 sent at the beginning of the chat(paraphrased as I forgot to copy it before hitting the send button): On March 25, 2010, the Kenyan Parliament recorded in its official record of the day that Obama was born in Kenya and NOT even a Native American. The US has been usurping the citizenship laws for decades. This is the main problem with illegal immigration and our border problem. What will you do to fix these two important issues?

question #2 rephrased & sent at 45 min into the chat: Chris, if elected, what will you do to enforce border control and put an end to the illegal practice of birthright citizenship for children born to aliens/foreigners who are legally & illegally here?

Link to the Official Kenyan Parliament records HERE. Page 31 paragraph 2: If America was living in a situation where they feared ethnicity and did not see itself as a multiparty state or nation, how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the President of America?

Instead of my 2nd question getting asked, Mr Jim Dittes was allowed a 3rd question which also just happened to be a few minutes after mine was sent in and on the same subject and quite watered down. Boy, sounds the white house press rules doesn’t it? Woster evidently has been taking lessons from Obama & Gibbles.

But I digress. Following up on his previous questioning of the candidates, the 1st questions asked of Nelson regarding Presidential qualifications & Obama’s qualifications during today’s chat were:

[11:59] Chris: Thanks very much for joining us, again. Let’s begin with a question I asked you and the other U.S. House candidates here on Mount Blogmore last week , which has gotten quite a bit of attention. As you know, some people suspect that President Obama might not have actually been born in the United States, in Hawaii, as he contends and his birth records seem to show. Do you doubt he was born in the USA? K.W.

[12:08] That question certainly has generated interest which doesn’t surprise me. Of all the issues I’ve dealt with as Secretary of State I have had more public comment on this question over the last year and a half than any other issue I’ve dealt with.

The most important point I can make is this, I strongly believe that constitutional requirements for any office must be met whether its President or Secretary of State or United States House of Representatives.

The President has met all the requirements to have his name placed on South Dakota’s ballot and be elected by the electoral college. That is my concern as Secretary of State.

Personally, I’ve looked at this from a number of angles and am satisfied that President Obama was born in the United States.

[12:08] Chris: Is that a change of position from what you said last week, or simply a clarification or expansion on it? K.W.

[12:11] No change of position. I said last week that the constitutional qualifications were important. I also said that absent a court ruling otherwise, all the requirements had been met to place the name on our ballot. Last week I did not affirmatively state my personal position which I have today.

[12:11] Chris: Fair enough. I think you’ve said that you heard doubts about the president’s actual birth place from a number of South Dakotans during the 2008 campaign. Do you think a significant number of South Dakotans, and Republicans in particular, have doubts about where the president was born? K.W.

[12:12] I’ve certainly heard from many who have that doubt but I don’t know what percentage of South Dakotans or Republicans would have that doubt.

Hmm, so Nelson admits that the Constitutional requirements for ALL offices must be met, yet he didn’t even bother to check, he just assumed because as we can CLEARLY SEE, the DNC certification did NOT state that he was qualified per the US Constitution as required by DNC bylaws to be on ALL their certification forms. Nice job Chris, Way to Go NOT protecting South Dakota’s ballots and actually doing your job to ensure that the candidates were actually constitutionally qualified.

Finally after the prescreened commenters got their questions asked & somewhat answered, Woster just couldn’t resist getting in another dig:

[1:09] Chris: Let’s end where we began, with the “birther” concerns. Do you believe John Thune was born in Jones County? Or do you think he might actually have been born in Lyman County, and spirited across the border in the middle of the night so he could claim to be a natural-born citizen of Murdo? K.W.

[1:11] Let’s end where I began. As long as Senator Thune is constitutionally qualified to be our United States Senator, it doesn’t matter.
Thanks for the visit!
Chris

[1:11] Chris: OK, but next time, we’re going to ask you to swear that you were born in Aurora County, not Brule County, as some have alleged…. K.W.

Well, lucky for us, Nelson will not be in charge of that task & I certainly hope the next SOS takes their job with a bit more due diligence and seriousness as to these qualifications and the ramifications to our national security & sovereignty if they are allowed to go unchecked. We also now have clear insight into  liberal Kevin Woster view of the US Constitution as the supreme law of the land.

More importantly we know where Nelson stands and how far he will go to cover-up his indiscretion of NOT making sure the candidate was in fact constitutionally qualified by requesting a certified copy of Obama’s long form birth certificate. You know that same form that is required for every child entering school, every person getting a driver’s license, etc, etc. Nope, no checky there, Nelson seems to be very comfortable in passing the buck.

Is this the trait you want for your next US Congressman in DC? Haven’t we already had enough of this “I’m for the Constitution” but the as soon as they are out of sight, they turn their back to it and throw the Constitution as well as their ethics out the window for the sake of political expediency?

You can read the entire online chat here: Live chat with US congressional candidate Chris Nelson, currently the SD Sec of State

Brooklyn Daily Eagle on US Citizenship & Presidential Eligibility; Feb 26, 1888

The following includes citations from Kent, Story & the Immigration & Nationality Acts of 1790, 1795 & 1802. It also mentions US Sec of State Thomas Bayard, whom I have already included in a previous article on the history of the definition of US citizenship. Bayard concluded in 1885 that the son of a German subject, born in Ohio, was not a citizen under the statute or the Constitution, because he was on his birth subject to a foreign power, and not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States”.

Brooklyn-Daily-Eagle-Sunday-February-26-1888-p-6 Pres eligibility

The Statist Conspiracy Debunkers Debunked Part I

When in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.  

We hold these truths to be self-evident:  

That all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that, to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. 

  

What was the real common law definition of “US citizen” as understood, written & adopted by the people at the time of the ratification of the Constitution? Was it that of the feudal common law of England that the founders had fought a bloody war to break free from? 

Absolutely not. 

When a society finds itself in a state of nature, as the colonist did when declaring their independence from England, all prior laws of the King cease to exist. That is, in the sense that the King has no further right to hold those feudal laws against the new society. It is now for the consenting members of the new society to determine which, if any, of the laws are to remain in effect for themselves to enforce locally as well as who shall be deemed citizens of the new society. 

What, was kept in place pertaining to the common law of England was the form of jurisprudence and a few concepts of the law that pertained to the safety & protection of the people. However, to think that the framers adopted for the new society the same citizenship laws defined by the feudal system of government in England is just plain ludicrous. The War of 1812 was a testament to that and is further corroborated by the works of the early justices as well as the framers. Another very definitive testament we have to look at regarding this is the census records from 1790-1880, as well as congressional testimony pertaining to those records wherein children born of aliens (foreigners) not yet naturalized or of aliens(foreigners) temporarily sojourning in the US were classified as aliens (foreigners) themselves. 

The children born to parents that were later naturalized became themselves naturalized.In this case, children classified as natives were deferred to the 3rd generation of the family. Children born after the naturalization of the parents were however classified as natives (2nd generation).  [page 666 Statement of Mr. Louis Schade & page 705 Statement of Mr. John P. Eberhart

I have already debunked the so-called conspiracy debunkers & have discussed who the original natives were here, but I must remind you that the term was used interchangeably with ‘natural born’ and understandably so. When reading the works of Vattel and understanding that many of the original natives/founders were also learned in the early history of America, it takes no great leap to understand why. It is simply because of the fact that our country was, at its infancy in the 1600’s, NOT under British rule.

Therefore, it is corrrect to say that all persons born or naturalized in the country at the time of independence are natives, however not all natives became US citizens. 

From this point of the birth of a new nation, the laws of nature take hold as to who the citizens are, but especially who the ‘natural born’ citizens are. 

Vattel 

§ 212. Citizens and natives. 

The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country. 

§ 213. Inhabitants. 

The inhabitants, as distinguished from citizens, are foreigners, who are permitted to settle and stay in the country. Bound to the society by their residence, they are subject to the laws of the state while they reside in it; and they are obliged to defend it, because it grants them protection, though they do not participate in all the rights of citizens. They enjoy only the advantages which the law or custom gives them. The perpetual inhabitants are those who have received the right of perpetual residence. These are a kind of citizens of an inferior order, and are united to the society without participating in all its advantages. Their children follow the condition of their fathers; and, as the state has given to these the right of perpetual residence, their right passes to their posterity. 

§ 214. Naturalization.(58) 

A nation, or the sovereign who represents it, may grant to a foreigner the quality of citizen, by admitting him into the body of the political society. This is called naturalization. There are some states in which the sovereign cannot grant to a foreigner all the rights of citizens, — for example, that of holding public offices — and where, consequently, he has the power of granting only an imperfect naturalization. It is here a regulation of the fundamental law, which limits the power of the prince. In other states, as in England and Poland, the prince cannot naturalize a single person, without the concurrence of the nation, represented by its deputies. Finally, there are states, as, for instance, England, where the single circumstance of being born in the country naturalizes the children of a foreigner. 

§ 216. Children born at sea. 

As to children born at sea, if they are born in those parts of it that are possessed by their nation, they are born in the country: if it is on the open sea, there is no reason to make a distinction between them and those who are born in the country; for, naturally, it is our extraction, not the place of our birth, that gives us rights: and if the children are born in a vessel belonging to the nation, they may be reputed born in its territories; for, it is natural to consider the vessels of a nation as parts of its territory, especially when they sail upon a free sea, since the state retains its jurisdiction over those vessels. And as, according to the commonly received custom, this jurisdiction is preserved over the vessels, even in parts of the sea subject to a foreign dominion, all the children born in the vessels of a nation are considered as born in its territory. For the same reason, those born in a foreign vessel are reputed born in a foreign country, unless their birth took place in a port belonging to their own nation; for, the port is more particularly a part of the territory; and the mother, though at that moment on board a foreign vessel, is not on that account out of the country. I suppose that she and her husband have not quitted their native country to settle elsewhere. 

The Constitution tells us that none but a ‘natural born citizen’, or a citizen at the time of the adoption of the Constitution are qualified to be president. This is where things go awry with that term native that is quoted in Vattel. Though natives are born on the soil, not all natives were citizens of the soil as shown in the previous debunking article. 

The conspiracy debunkers continue to argue that the feudal definition of ‘natural born subject’ is that of the ‘natural born citizen’. As I have shown, they argue that the term ‘native’ = ‘natural born’ regardless of the context in which it is being used when referring to persons holding dual allegiances. If foreign influences were not of consequence, then there would have been no need for the grandfather clause, ‘or a citizens at the time of the adoption of this Constitution’

Supreme Court Justice Joseph Story clarifies for us in his Commentary, The Conflict of Laws, the law adopted by the US. It was not the feudal law of England but was the law of nature wherein the children follow the condition of the father:  

First, the place of birth of a person is considered as his domicil, if it is at the time of his birth the domicil of his parents. Patris originem unusquisque sequatur*. This is usually denominated the domicil of birth or nativity, domicilium originis. But, if the parents are then on a visit, or on a journey, (in itinere), the home of the parents (at least if it is in the same country) will be deemed the domicil of birth or nativity. 

Secondly, the domicil of birth of minors continues, until they have obtained a new domicil. Thirdly, minors are generally deemed incapable, proprio marte, of changing their domicil during their minority; and, therefore, they retain the domicil of their parents; and if the parents change their domicil. that of the infant children follows it; and if the father dies, his last domicil is that of the infant children. 

Dig. Lib. 50, tit 1,1. 27, §2; Pothier Pand. Lib. 50, tit. 1, n. 18; Somerville v. Somerville, 5 Vesey, 750, 786, 790; 2 Domat, Public Law, B. 1, tit 16, § 3, p. 462; Id. art 6; Post, $ 47. 

a Cod. Lib. 10, tit 31,1. 36; 2 Domat, Public Law, B. I, tit. 16, § 3, art. 10; 1 Boullenois, Observ. 4, p. 53; Voet, ad Pand. Lib. 5, tit 1, n. 91, 92, 100. See Scrimshire r. Scrimshire, 2 Hagg. Eccl. R. 405, 406; Cochin, (Euvres, Tom. 5, p. 5, 6; Id. 698, 4to. edit. 

3 Dr. Laeber’s Encyc. Amer. art Domicil; Pothier, Cout d’Orleans, ch. 1, art 10.12; Somerville e. Somerville, 5 Vesey, 750, 787; 1 Boullenois, Observ. 4, p. 53. 

4 Dig. Lib. 50, tit 1,1.9; Pothier, Pand. Lib. 50, tit 1, n. 3.  

(for definitions of domicil refer to page 1052 of the commentary) 

* Fifthly; Children born upon the sea are deemed to belong, and to have their domicil in the country, to which their parents belong.6 

^ 49. From these considerations and rules the general conclusion may be deduced, that domicil is of three sorts; domicil by birth, domicil by choice, and domicil by operation of law. 

i Vattel.Lib. l,ch. 19, § 213. 

a The Venua, 8 Cranch, 278, 281; The Frances, 8 Cranch, 335; The Indian Chief, 3 Rob. 12; Bempde t>. Johnstone, 3 Ves. 198, 202; The Friendschaft, 3 Wheaton, R. 14; Ommany .••. Bingham, cited 5 Ves. jr. 756, 757, 765. 

« Vattel, B. 1, ch. 19, § 217; The Indian Chief, 3 Rob. 13, 27; The Josephine, 4 Rob. 26. 

s Vattel, B. 1, ch. 19, § 216; Dr. Leibert Encyc. Araer. art Domicil. 

So, did the framers adopt a form of dual citizenship at our founding? Absolutely not. Even the Brits did not recognize dual citizenship under their feudal definition. 

Blackstone Commentaries (1765):  that every man owes natural allegiance where he is born, and cannot owe two such allegiances, or serve two masters, at once… 

England had cast off the law of natures definition of ‘freeman/citizen’ and adopted the definition of ‘subject’ that was based on feudal law. The monarchy took it even further by declaring that any child born to a British subject, regardless of being born within the borders of a British sovereignty was taken to be a ‘natural born subject’ and those born within the borders of a British Sovereignty of foreigners, even those temporarily sojourning, were deemed ‘natural born subjects’. After many wars & plunging treasury, they were in need of fresh bodies for their military as well as new subjects they could tax to reestablish their shrinking treasury. 

Blackstone cont: …To encourage also foreign commerce, it was enacted by statute 25 Edw. III. st. 2. that all children born abroad, provided both their parents were at the time of the birth in allegiance to the king, and the mother had passed the seas by her husband’s consent, might inherit as if born in England: and accordingly it hath been so adjudged in behalf of merchants. But by several more modern statutes these restrictions are still farther taken off: so that all children, born out of the king’s ligeance, whose fathers were natural-born subjects, are now natural-born subjects themselves, to all intents and purposes, without any exception;…] 

You can see that this is in complete contradiction to that of the commentary by Justice Story, thus verifying that ours is not that of the feudal government. 

Why was this? It was for our national security & the preservation of the new nation as discussed by Vattel. 

As the framers discussed and adopted the qualifications for the several branches of our government, they continually decreased the numbers of those eligible to attain to those elected positions. The fewer the number of representatives in the branch, the stronger check on qualifications as is easily seen in Article 1 of the Constitution regarding qualifications for the House of Reps & the Senate. These are discussed in Federalist Papers # 52 & 62 respectively, however Papers #52-66 give the complete discussion as to the perils of foreign influences into these branches of our government. 

The truth is, many of the framers wanted the entirety of our elected officials to be ‘natural born’ with the exception of the founders grandfathered in and some even went further as to try and include these qualifications for the Supreme Court Justices. 

Yes, foreign influences were very much on their minds and in light of the actions of today’s administration, they were wholly justified. 

Now, were the legislatures & people of the individual states of the same mindset? The conspiracy debunkers say, ‘heck no’. Native born on the soil regardless of parentage, thus born owing allegiance to a foreign nation at birth is of no consequence. 

Here is what they repeatedly regurgitate: 

“No man but a native, or who has resided fourteen years in America, can be chosen President.” Elliot’s Debates –DEBATES IN THE CONVENTION OF THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA, ON THE ADOPTION OF THE FEDERAL CONSTITUTION, pg 195-196 (statements of future Supreme Court Justice James Iredell, July 30, 1788). 

Yes, it is a nicely parsed & edited quote showing only the part they want you to see. They cite a reference but give you no direct link knowing most will take it at face value and will never search out the entire historical reference to read it in its original form. 

Congressman Iredell during his numerous remarks, over the course of several days of debate on the several articles of the Constitution, expounded on the fatalities of foreign influences: 

…but if it be ever necessary on any occasion, it is necessary on this, when the question perhaps involves the safety or ruin of our country… The office of superintending the execution of the laws of the Union is an office of the utmost importance. It is of the greatest consequence to the happiness of the people of America, that the person to whom this great trust is delegated should be worthy of it. It would require a man of abilities and experience; it would also require a man who possessed, in a high degree, the confidence of his country. This being the case, it would be a great defect, in forming a constitution for the United States, if it Was so constructed that, by any accident, an improper person could have a chance to obtain that office… In almost every country, the executive has the command of the military forces. From the nature of the thing, the command of armies ought to be delegated to one person only. The secrecy, despatch, and decision, which are necessary in military operations, can only be expected from one person. The President, therefore, is to command the military forces of the United States, and this power I think a proper one; at the same time it will be found to be sufficiently guarded… 

Now here is the entire unparsed quote relating to the presidential qualifications.

Jealousy in a free government ought to be respected; but it may be carried to too great an extent. It is impracticable to guard against all possible danger of people’s choosing their officers indiscreetly. If they have a right to choose, they may make a bad choice. 

I met, by accident, with a pamphlet, this morning, in which the author states, as a very serious danger, that the pope of Rome might be elected President. I confess this never struck me before; and if the author had read all the qualifications of a President, perhaps his fears might have been quieted. 

No man but a native, or who has resided fourteen years in America, can be chosen President. I know not all the qualifications for pope, but I believe he must be taken from the college of cardinals; and probably there are many previous steps necessary before he arrives at this dignity. A native of America must have very singular good fortune, 

who, after residing fourteen years in his own country, should go to Europe, enter into Romish orders, obtain the promotion of cardinal, afterwards that of pope, and at length be so much in the confidence of his own country as to be elected President. It would be still more extraordinary if he should give up his popedom for our presidency. Sir, it is impossible to treat such idle fears with any degree of gravity. Why is it not objected, that there is no provision in the Constitution against electing one of the kings of Europe President? It would be a clause equally rational and judicious. 

I hope that I have in some degree satisfied the doubts of the gentleman. This article is calculated to secure universal religious liberty, by putting all sects on a level — the only way to prevent persecution. I thought nobody would have objected to this clause, which deserves, in my opinion, the highest approbation. This country has already had the honor of setting an example of civil freedom, and I trust it will likewise have the honor of teaching the rest of the world the way to religious freedom also. God grant both may be perpetuated to the end of time! 

Here we can clearly see that some of the people were concerned by a possible feudal definition of ‘native’ in the new Constitution and were calling out its perils by passing pamphlets. However, the legislature of the state of North Carolina understood the laws of nature wherein a man could not owe allegiance to 2 nations at the same time and thus citizenship was defined in that of a singular allegiance. They completely understood the roots of its meaning as it pertained to the new Constitution and that the person attaining to the office of President must have had, at birth, a complete and undivided allegiance to the United States of America. 

Next I give you another parsing (purposefully edited version) from the conspiracy debunkers. 

” It is not too much to say, that no one, but a native citizen, ought ordinarily to be intrusted with an office so vital [the presidency] to the safety and liberties of the people. But an exception was, from a deep sense of gratitude, made in favor of those distinguished men, who, though not natives, had, with such exalted patriotism, and such personal sacrifices, united their lives and fortunes with ours during the Revolution….” Joseph Story, A Familiar Exposition of the Constitution of the United States, pg. 167 (1842 ed.) 

Here is Story’s complete summary  regarding the qualifications of the president and vice president. 

§ 269. The next clause respects the qualifications of the President; and the qualifications of the Vice President are (as we have seen) to be the same. ” No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President. Neither shall any person be eligible to the office, who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.” 

§ 270. Considering the nature of the duties, the extent of the information, and the solid wisdom and experience, required in the Executive department, no one can reasonably doubt the propriety of some qualification of age of the President. That, which is selected, is the middle age of life, by which period, the character and talents of individuals are generally known, and fairly developed ; the passions of youth have become moderated ; and the faculties are fast advancing to their highest state of maturity. An earlier period could scarcely have afforded sufficient pledges of talents, wisdom, and virtue, adequate to the dignity and importance of the office. 

§ 271. The other qualifications respect citizenship and inhabitancy. It is not too much to say, that no one, but a native citizen, ought ordinarily to be intrusted with an office so vital to the safety and liberties of the people. But an exception was, from a deep sense of gratitude, made in favor of those distinguished men, who, though not natives, had, with such exalted patriotism, and such personal sacrifices, united their lives and fortunes with ours during the Revolution. But even a native citizen might, from long absence, and voluntary residence abroad, become alienated from, or indifferent to his country ; and, therefore, a residence for fourteen years within the United States is made indispensable, as a qualification to the office. This, of course, does not exclude persons, who are temporarily abroad in the public service, or on their private affairs, and who have not intentionally given up their domicile here. •  

So did Story differentiate between the natives from the natural born? The answer is ‘no’ he did not as the natives were born of the soil & at the time of their birth they held but one allegiance. The founding fathers who were born on the soil, as well as their anscetors, had considered themselves ‘freemen’. They were been born in a sovereign nation that held no duty to nor did the colonists partake in any part of the British parliament or government. The laws of England were not the original laws of the land. It was England’s refusal to see them as ‘freemen’ and subsequent actions of the Brits, coming over & taking by force the local governments, removing the American laws & replacing them with that of the Monarchy thus oppressing the ‘freemen/citizens’ of the states. The Monarchy kept a standing army on American soil to arrest & unjustly prosecuted the colonists on foreign land. They also laid heavy taxes on them without allowance for representation in the British government, therefore for all intent purposes, the Monarchy held the British Americans as slaves. This is what forced the founding fathers into such a radical revolution & complete dissolution of their ties to England. 

Finally we consider this from Q&A from the Letters of Delegates to Congress, 1774-1789, Volume 21, Pages 250-251; notes from Thomas Jefferson, December 1783. 

 

 “Qu. 1. Can an American citizen, adult, now inherit lands in England?” 

to which Thomas Jefferson begins his answer with 

“Natural subjects can inherit–Aliens cannot.
There is no middle character–every man must be the one or the other of these.”
 

(dual nationality did not exist. Citizenship was singular.) 

Thomas Jefferson also wrote this in his answer: 

“An alien is the subject or citizen of a foreign power. The treaty of peace  acknowledges we are no longer to owe allegiance to the king of G.B. It acknowledges us no longer as Natural subjects then. It makes us citizens of independent states; it makes us aliens then.” 

We now can unequivocally conclude that there were no laws adopted at our founding that allowed for dual citizenship and that the term ‘native’ does have many meanings. And as stated before, natives can be citizens of a society, however all not all ‘natives’ are ‘ipso facto’ citizens of that society. 

Ours is a society of citizenship by consent (republicanism), not citizenship by rule of man (feudalism). 

To understand better the ‘law of nature’ & how it pertains to the eventual revolution of 1776, I recommend you read & study the links included in the article as well as the following link where you can read all the founding documents of the ‘freemen’ (British American citizens) beginning with the Magna Carta (1215), the Mayflower Compact (1620) as well as the original Constitution of the Colonies (1639). Yes, America was at one time a free sovereign & separate nation from that of England under her own laws put in place by the consenting freemen/citizens of the original American society. 

The American Constitution – A Documentary Record 

In conclusion, I again leave you with a snippet of President Washington’s farewell  address warning

Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence (I conjure you to believe me, fellow-citizens) the jealousy of a free people ought to be constantly awake, since history and experience prove that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of republican government...  

Real patriots who may resist the intrigues of the favorite are liable to become suspected and odious, while its tools and dupes usurp the applause and confidence of the people, to surrender their interests…  

  

In Part II we will move forwards and into the 19th Century. We will navigate through several treatise as well as the archives of Congress from the 1820’s through the late 1800’s. 

   

Linda A Melin 

Citizen Researcher  

http://www.constitutionallyspeaking.wordpress.com 

Copyright 2010 

 

SD State Computers & Education Offices Lobbying for Abortion

I received a call last evening from a very nice sounding lady. She was calling to ask me to join in a bus trip to Pierre to sit in on legislative activities as well as talk to our elected officials to promote certain legislation.

PAUSE! Promote legislation? I asked her ‘What legislation are you promoting?”

She beat around the bush, so I went back with a different tactic and said it would depend on the trucking schedule and if it would be a heavy dispatch day. She then gave me the website address for the registration form, but not until I gave her my list of the most important legislation I thought should be pushed for such as balanced budget, immigration & election reform.

Well, this afternoon I went to the website: StandUpSD dot org. Now, I haven’t been active in the abortion issue online and I am glad I didn’t let on to her my views in this area, because it was totally shocking to find out that:

OUR TAX DOLLARS ARE BEING SPENT TO PROMOTE ABORTION LEGISLATION!

Yep, you read that right. State offices, computers and personnel on OUR payroll are using state offices to conduct their business of promoting abortion as a health care issue & as a tool for contraception.

The Statists go to great lengths, even using every illegal tool in the book to promote the genocide of innocent children.

Early law commentaries that date immediately after the revolution specifically talk about killing of the unborn & infants as well as suicide and the unlawfullness of them all.

In “THE” very 1st commentary on American Law,1791 , Supreme Court Justice James Wilson wrote :

“Human life, from its commencement to its close, is protected by the common law.”

 

Let’s take Justice James Wilson’s words and use them AGAINST those who promote the genocide of God’s most precious gift.

The gift of ‘Human Life’

 

 

Massachusetts Miracle: Kennedy’s Reign No More & Online Chat With Herseth-Sandlin

YES! It was the “SCOTT HEARD ROUND THE WORLD”! Congratulations US Senator Scott Brown!

The Dakota War College had a good quip yesterday from state Rep. Blake Curd, who is running against Herseth-Sandlin For the US House seat, and they couldn’t have put it any truer:

We must be approaching the Groundhog’s day Recess, as Congresswoman Herseth Sandlin is momentarily poking her head out of her Washington cave to determine whether or not it’s safe for her to come out. Usually, she dives back into DC for 8 more months, and is only seen in campaign commercials, and scripted events:

Blake Curd Encourages South Dakotans To Ask Rep. Herseth Sandlin Questions Tomorrow

SIOUX FALLS – U.S. House Candidate, doctor and U.S. Air Force veteran Blake Curd today reminded concerned South Dakota citizens that tomorrow might be their only chance to ask Rep. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin about how she plans to vote on the final version of the health care bill. Rep. Herseth Sandlin has agreed to take questions from the public during a online chat session with the Rapid City Journal tomorrow at 12:00PM MST.

“This might be the only opportunity South Dakotans have to dialogue with Rep. Herseth Sandlin before the final vote on the health care bill. I encourage concerned citizens to log in online tomorrow and let our Representative know how they feel. Sadly, other live forums or townhall meetings are highly unlikely,” said Curd, a State Representative representing Lincoln and Minnehaha Counties.

“Democratic leaders promised this would be the most open and transparent legislative process in history. Unfortunately it has been far from that. Our own Representative has kept the public in the dark about her position on the health care reform until the last minute before the vote. South Dakotans deserve better than that,” said Curd.

I had the opportunity to sit in on the online live chat with Herseth-Sandlin this afternoon that was sponsored by the Rapid City Journal. As usual, all rhetoric & no substance. When my questioned was asked regarding future stimulus spending to create jobs, she said she voted against a so-called one this last Dec, but said she voted against it because it was rushed and not well thought out. So in otherwords, she is still not opposed to BIG GOVERNMENT SPENDING & BIG BROTHER GOVERNMENT as long as she gets her piece of the pie.

Read the Dakota War College response to the online chat appropriately titled:

Sounds like Herseth Sandlin is already planning a election year repeat: The Debate-duck

Time for South Dakotans to send our own ‘Shot Heard Round the World in November and send Herseth-Sandlin packing, just as we did to her mentor, Tom Daschle, in 2004.

Did Common Law Really Grant Automatic US Citizenship Upon Birth Regardless Of Parentage?

It has been a long debate for over a 3 decades now, but especially since the appearance of one Barack H Obama and his intentions for possible candidacy as a US President. The opposing views could not be further apart and then there are those who cling to the outside possibility that Obama may have been born outside of the US, but for I and many others who are strict constitutionalists, the mere fact that he was born a British subject at birth was the deciding factor that has kept us researching for the past year & a half.

The one factor that the Obama supporters cling to is some dilluted notion that the founding fathers & colonists adopted English common law that automatically granted citizenship to any child born on US soil. They also claim that the requirement for Congress as laid out in A1 that states one must be a “citizen” is the same and equal to the requirement laid out in A2 for the Executive Branch which requires one to be a “natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of the constitution” regardless that they are 2 very distinctly different types of citizens.

Researchers & constitutional experts from both sides of the debates agree 100% that the term ‘citizen’ that was adopted for congress allowed for naturalized citizens to attain to those elected offices. Where we have differed is the definition of  term ‘natural born’ citizen. We hold fast to the argument that both parents must be US citizens when the child was born on US soil( born with total & complete allegiance to the US) & the progessive crowd as well as many so called conservative constitutional scholars hold fast to their notion that parentage held no factor in determining citizenship of a child born on US soil.

If that had been the case then there would have never been a need for the grandfather clause in A2S1C5:

No person except a “natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this constitution”

So, did the framers really adopt a common law rule that automatically granted US citizenship upon birth as England did? Let’s take a look at what the US government had to say about certain children born on US soil at the time of the adoption of the constitution from recently acquired documents from the national archives. As I’ve stated in the past, one can not limit their research to such a narrow alley that keeps pertinent information from being brought out into the light. You can not define what ‘natural born’ means without looking into all the laws for all types of citizenship and therein lies the answer to the proverbial question: Is Barack H Obama constitutionally qualified to be president under the definition of ‘natural born’ citizen that was adopted & ratified in 1789 by the colonists?

SoundexIndex to Naturalization  Petitions for the United States District and Circuit Courts, Northern District of Illinois, and Immigration and Naturalization Service District 9

1840-1950

Background

The process of naturalization has been a concern of the people of the United States since colonial times. One of the grievances against George III in the Declaration of Independence charged that “he has endeavored to prevent the population of these states; for that purpose obstructing the Laws of Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migration hither . . . .” This concern was addressed in the United States Constitution, which provided that “Congress shall have the Power … to establish an uniform Rule of

Naturalization . . . .” (Art. 1, Sec. 8).

Congress passed the first naturalization act on March 26, 1790 (1 Stat. 103). The law allowed any free, white alien over the age of twenty-one to apply for citizenship after two year’s residency in the United States. The process simply required an applicant to visit “any common law court of record,” prove to the satisfaction of the court that he or she was of good moral character, and take an oath of allegiance to the Constitution. A judge then ruled on the applicant’s petition. Married women and children under the age of twenty-one derived citizenship from their husband or father respectively. Children of unsuccessful applicants could apply for citizenship in their own right, at the age of twenty-one.

And then from the national archives on geneology, we find this:

Naturalization Records:

Introduction

Naturalization is the process by which an alien becomes an American citizen. It is a voluntary act; naturalization is not required. Of the foreign-born persons listed on the 1890 through 1930 censuses, 25 percent had not become naturalized or filed their “first papers.”

This article is adapted from Claire Prechtel-Kluskens, “The Location of Naturalization Records,” The Record, Vol. 3, No. 2, pp. 21-22 (Nov. 1996).

The Courts

From the first naturalization law passed by Congress in 1790 through much of the 20th century, an alien could become naturalized in any court of record. Thus, most people went to the court most convenient to them, usually a county court. The names and types of courts vary from State to State. The names and types of courts have also varied during different periods of history–but may include the county supreme, circuit, district, equity, chancery, probate, or common pleas court. Most researchers will find that their ancestors became naturalized in one of these courts. A few State supreme courts also naturalized aliens, such as the supreme courts of Indiana, Idaho, Iowa, Maine, New Jersey, and South Dakota. Aliens who lived in large cities sometimes became naturalized in a Federal court, such as a U.S. district court or U.S. circuit court.

General Rule: The Two-Step Process

Congress passed the first law regulating naturalization in 1790 (1 Stat. 103). As a general rule, naturalization was a two-step process that took a minimum of 5 years. After residing in the United States for 2 years, an alien could file a “declaration of intent” (so-called “first papers”) to become a citizen. After 3 additional years, the alien could “petition for naturalization.” After the petition was granted, a certificate of citizenship was issued to the alien. These two steps did not have to take place in the same court. As a general rule, the “declaration of intent” generally contains more genealogically useful information than the “petition.” The “declaration” may include the alien’s month and year (or possibly the exact date) of immigration into the United States.

Exceptions to the General Rule

Having stated this “two-step, 5-year” general rule, it is necessary to note several exceptions.

The first major exception was that “derivative” citizenship was granted to wives and minor children of naturalized men. From 1790 to 1922, wives of naturalized men automatically became citizens. This also meant that an alien woman who married a U.S. citizen automatically became a citizen. (Conversely, an American woman who married an alien lost her U.S. citizenship, even if she never left the United States.) From 1790 to 1940, children under the age of 21 automatically became naturalized citizens upon the naturalization of their father. Unfortunately, however, names and biographical information about wives and children are rarely included in declarations or petitions filed before September 1906. For more information about women in naturalization records, see  Marian L. Smith, “Women and Naturalization, ca. 1802-1940,” Prologue: Quarterly of the National Archives, Vol. 30, No. 2 (Summer 1998): 146-153.

The second major exception to the general rule was that, from 1824 to 1906, minor aliens who had lived in the United States 5 years before their 23rd birthday could file both their declarations and petitions at the same time.

The third major exception to the general rule was the special consideration given to veterans. An 1862 law allowed honorably discharged Army veterans of any war to petition for naturalization–without previously having filed a declaration of intent–after only 1 year of residence in the United States. An 1894 law extended the same no-previous-declaration privilege to honorably discharged 5-year veterans of the Navy or Marine Corps. Over 192,000 aliens were naturalized between May 9, 1918, and June 30, 1919, under an act of May 9, 1918, that allowed aliens serving in the U.S. armed forces during “the present war” to file a petition for naturalization without making a declaration of intent or proving 5 years’ residence. Laws enacted in 1919, 1926, 1940, and 1952 continued various preferential treatment provisions for veterans.

Now a question to all those progressive legal experts & so-called conservative constitutional lawyers out there.

How is it that you can expertly claim that the US adopted some form of common law that automatically granted US citizenship to any child born on US soil; when clearly, as the government archives show, the laws of the day state otherwise? Your claims that the US has always granted US citizenship upon birth on US soil is utterly & completely…

BUSTED!

Progressives have been trying to eliminate or redefine the ‘natural born’ requirement for over 3 decades  and yet they all failed miserably. And even though there was sympathy towards immigrants who served in the military allowing for faster naturalization procedures for the ones that served honorably& who were thusly discharged honorably. This gives me further confirmation as to why the progressives thought they could get away with white-washing McCain’s problem of birth in the Republic of Panama.

2010: Know Your Opponent

Thanks to Trevor Loundon of the New Zeal Blogfor bringing this to our attention. Trevor was the man who 1st broke the Van Jones story, that was eventually exposed by Glenn Beck & FOX News. Trevor also was the 1st to expose a host of other radicals, members of the CPUSA(Communist Party of the United States of America) & the DSP(Democrat Socialist Party that is directly linked to the CPUSA in which Obama was a member of and whom boasted how they got him elected to the IL state Senate) in the Obama administration or have close/direct ties to them & their socialist threats of wanting to destroy our country & economy from within. Be sure to visit Trevor’s site to learn even more of whom we are dealing with and help us to put a stop to their election fraud tactics before this November.

David Horowitz and Democrat Pat Caddell Explain the Radical Take-over of the US. Must View!!!

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Judicial Verbicide, An Affront to the Constitution

This should be required reading for all studying US history, our Constitution & US government. It is high time everyone learn and we put these oligarchs in their respective places, that of being under the rule of the people, not the other way around.

Judicial Verbicide- An affront to the constitution

Arguing With Idiots

I am not talking about Glenn Beck’s book, I am talking about Glenn Beck himself. For someone who claims to stand on the side of the Constitution, he sure hasn’t taken the time to learn about the qualifications of the ‘top dog’ who, as stated in the oath of office taken on Jan 20,2009, is suppose to be in charge of enforcing it.

And for all his chalk board drawings and references to the great partiots who fought to win our freedom, one can only conclude that it is nothing but mere window dressing for the ratings of his show which makes his “Refounders” project one of the most oxymoronic ideas he has had thus far which brings me to today’s subject.

After taking a much needed break to concentrate on the family front for a while, I come back to find Glenn Beck has joined the ranks of “O’Really?” and I must say, with all the adverts that the two are now working together it does not surprise me that Beck has now succumbed to O’Really’s influences. Yes, O’Really, you know the guy who says being born a British subject does not affect ones eligibility to be president.

And this coming from a former teacher. Geez, no wonder this country is in such a mess.

In his response to Beck, Stephen Pidgeon has opened the door for more dialogue from Beck:

Dear Mr. Beck:

You are ill-informed on the “birther” issue. Barack Obama, by his own admission, was a British subject at birth. He has never denied having a Kenyan father, who himself was a British subject as a Kenyan native. This is easly established under the British Nationality Act of 1948. He is therefore disqualified to run for the office of the President, because the office is not available to subjects of other governments. The issue is very simple, and very obvious. Obama himself admitted that he wasn’t a natural born citizen when he debated Alan Keyes in 2004.

Let’s see you deal with this one. There is nothing “nutty” about it, and it doesn’t depend on whether his maternal grandmother tried to cover up a foreign birth in Hawaii by placing newspaper notices. It is as plain as your face. BHO is a foreign national first, and an American secondarily, if at all. That is why he thinks there are 57 states; why he doesn’t understand the constitution; why he wants to give us Britain’s health care system (it’s all in the teeth, don’t you know); why he thinks Interpol should have greater authority in the US than US law enforcement; etc. He is a British subject and has no business holding the office of POTUS.

If you think you can overlook this constitutional crisis as not part of the Rubicon, you are mistaken. One constitutional overlook breeds another and the next thing you know, the financial industry is nationalized, the auto industry is nationalized, the health care industry is about to be nationalized, and the energy industry will soon be nationalized.

Ultimately, it is all going to be okay, because socialism only lasts until other people’s money (OPM) runs out, and binge spender BHO has spent all the money we have and all the money we will ever have for the next several generations. He spent all of this before he got his socialist healthcare on the table. He and his wife have partied like Eddie Murphy in The Distinguished Gentleman (1992) since taking office, while he has busied himself with overthrowing the constitutional republic, establishing a new Islamic empire worldwide, disarming and crippling America, and unilaterally dividing Israel and Jerusalem. The only budget constraint for Obama is ink and paper (and he is working his way around that) and his foreign policy advisor appears to be “mirror, mirror on the wall”. He has bankrupted the nation, which the sleeping Oprah watchers are now discovering for the very first time. The reality of the bankruptcy will hit home with gusto in 2010. Not only will we suffer with 30% unemployment, a complete collapse of real estate, and a complete collapse of the dollar, we will also suffer the slings and arrows of dramatic military defeats, as we let this foreigner steer the ship of state. Most Americans have no idea how bad it is going to get.

As for Obama: he will be one of history’s most reviled figures – on a par with Nero – as a fool who couldn’t even understand that when he denigrated the United States, he was destroying the very state upon which his safety and his legacy depended. He will suffer dramatic defeat in Afghanistan and Iraq – it will not be like Viet Nam, and his name will be tarred with it. It will be more like the disastrous defeat of Xerxes at Salamis, or the Ottomans at Sisek, or the Moors at Tours; a game changing defeat that will forever cement the destiny of the republic known as the United States of America. Obama will join the other names in history who suffered cataclysmic losses in the lands of Magog.

His legacy? A communist, collectivist fool, brainwashed by red diaper doper babies haunting the halls of ivy league academia whose agenda was to bring back the failed Bolshevik revolution worldwide, who brought his fully bloomed ignorance to power illegally in the US because of the needs of his narcissistic ego, whose illegitimacy caused the US to go bankrupt and to suffer its worst military setbacks in the history of the nation in just a few short months. History will marvel at the foolishness of Americans, and historians will wonder how we as a people could have allowed this to happen. Then, of course, historians will ultimately conclude that the demise of the greatest nation the world had ever known happened because the watchdogs whose duty it was to warn Americans of such possibilities – the so-called news media – conspired with foreign powers and global financial criminals to destroy America from the inside, as a result of their cowardice, malevolence and silence.

Contributing member: Glenn Beck, who simply could not bring himself to utter the truth about Obama – that he is a usurper, holding the presidency illegally and unconstitutionally, because he is without a legal birthright. Let us never forget who shirked their duty to tell the truth in these last hours, and let us not allow history to forget.

STEPHEN PIDGEON

Now the big question, with Beck’s daily ranting about the Constitution & how we need to get back to it and to our founding, will he come out of the closet and really stand up for it or will he just continue to use it for ratings? Because as Stephen pointed out:

If you think you can overlook this constitutional crisis as not part of the Rubicon, you are mistaken. One constitutional overlook breeds another and the next thing you know, the financial industry is nationalized, the auto industry is nationalized, the health care industry is about to be nationalized, and the energy industry will soon be nationalized.

I’m certainly NOT going to hold my breath for that to happen, but instead I will use every breath I have to educate a dumbed down American public as to the truth of this Constitutional Crisis.

The Illegality/Un-Constitutionality of Dual Citzenship

First, thanks to the readers for their patience in my non-posting days leading up to Christmas. Yes Christmas has now past, but for those of us who were snowbound and whose 18 wheels must keep rolling to pay the bills,  our holiday gatherings will have to be revisited after the new year has rung in.

Now, back to the business of our Constitution & US citizenship, in which I have had some spirited debates on recently, I bring to you a snippet from Edwin Meese III’s 2005 release of the Heritage Guide to the Constitution. I came across this while researching back through Article I in my effort to better understand the commerce clause & the general welfare clause.

It was like fate that the word ‘dual’ jumped out at me while fanning to get to the page I was headed to.

page 111:

Until recent decades, American public policy consistantly prohibited dual citizenship. Since 1795, Congress has required that all candidates for naturalization formally renounce allegiance to their native land and any other foreign power. That requirement remains part of national law and is an integral element of the citizenship oath. The rationale for these policies is that citizenship requires undivided loyalty to one country.

Yet today there are millions of American citizens who are also citizens of other countries. Many are naturalized American citizens whose native countries do not recognize the renunciation of loyalty that their native citizens make in the American citizenship oath. Others are the off-spring of one American parent and one foreign parent, deriving citizenship from both sides, or foreign-born children adopted by American parents. Because the courts now prohibit the government from expatriating those who maintain an active citizenship in a foreign nation (some American citizens have even held public office in other countries), dual citizenship has become a fact of American life, despite statutory law~  Joseph Bassette

 

Meese’s full review of the Naturalization Clause of the Constitution covers the War of 1812 and numerous Supreme Court cases, but let these facts ring loud and clear:

1)  America has never legally recognized dual citizenship, and the framers never intended for a dual national to hold the highest office in the land

2) The American judicial system has over-stepped its bounds and created fictitious laws that they had no authority to do so

3) It is a fact, that as of this day, there is no statutory law allowing for dual citizenship that has ever passed out of the US Congress

Which brings me back to THIS, a list of Congressional aactivities since 1973 to remove the term ‘natural born citizen’ from Article II and replace it with ‘citizen’ as well as Congressional aactivities to change the laws and confer natural born status on all anchor babies that would have been retroactive if passed. They were also ALL Congressional activities that all died in committee because they knew full well the public would not stand for a foreigner to become President.

Oh, wait, they didn’t need the legislation, they only needed a dumbed down public & corrupt election process.

Does it make it law? absolutely not!

Does it make it irreversible? absolutely not!

Will it ever be reversed? I pray for our Nation’s national security & sovereignty that it does.